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The Fall Guy
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Incite Better Handling of Complaints
by The Fall Guy inever feel as if companies or their telephone complaint handlers couldn't care less about your problem?
i don't know if it's just me, but in recent times i seem to have had more than my fair share of companies/tradesmen who acted with contempt.. admittedly, many of them are given a really hard time by extremely irate customers, but each customer should be treated as an individual.. i have found that i receive a more focussed & attentive response when i inform the person on the other end of the line that i am recording the call for my personal reference & security.
from that point on, i generally receive their full attention and achieve a satisfactory outcome for my complaint.
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Incite Better Handling of Complaints
by The Fall Guy inever feel as if companies or their telephone complaint handlers couldn't care less about your problem?
i don't know if it's just me, but in recent times i seem to have had more than my fair share of companies/tradesmen who acted with contempt.. admittedly, many of them are given a really hard time by extremely irate customers, but each customer should be treated as an individual.. i have found that i receive a more focussed & attentive response when i inform the person on the other end of the line that i am recording the call for my personal reference & security.
from that point on, i generally receive their full attention and achieve a satisfactory outcome for my complaint.
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The Fall Guy
Ever feel as if companies or their telephone complaint handlers couldn't care less about your problem? I don't know if it's just me, but in recent times I seem to have had more than my fair share of companies/tradesmen who acted with contempt.
Admittedly, many of them are given a really hard time by extremely irate customers, but each customer should be treated as an individual.
I have found that I receive a more focussed & attentive response when I inform the person on the other end of the line that I am recording the call for my personal reference & security. From that point on, I generally receive their full attention and achieve a satisfactory outcome for my complaint. Everyone records customers' calls - simply turning the tables. Another result this morning!
One of these gadgets and a voice recorder gets the job done.
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April 2018 Broadcast - normal weird stuff
by Listener inwe hear a story regarding the life of thomas and emma.
she states that "when thomas and i first learnt that i was pregnant, we were both really shocked" she doesn't explain why they were both really shocked but it seems an odd reaction unless they were using the safest contraception invented or hadn't been told about the bird and the bees.two experiences that touched the heart of gb sanderson were as follows -.
in russia a jw was jailed for 6 months, the jailers did everything to try to undermine his faith, which included violence.
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"I'd like to teach the world to sing, some cultish Kingdom songs..................................."
Altogether now.....................
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Who is Sholom Drizin?
by zeb ini was wandering about sites and this guy was mentioned as a big % owner in wtbs and watchtower.
there were pictures of him an elderly man with hotel interests.. was i a member of a sect or a business empire of sorts.
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The Fall Guy
Mystery still unsolved as far as I can see.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/282271/wathtower-inc-wtbt-same-organization
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Memorial Attendance ???
by Phizzy inhi all, anybody any anecdotal or actual idea of how attendance numbers went this year ?.
there are hints that it is well down, but is it ?
and if it is, will the borg stop crowing about the attendance as they always have ?.
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The Fall Guy
Phizzy - I'll be optimistic and suggest that a decline in "interested ones" at the ritual is ultimately inevitable - especially thanks to the org's "own goal" of shutting down so many local KH's.
It's bad for the publishers, but less & less non-JW's will be inclined to travel longer distances to reach a non-event.
NBD - 2014 memorial? Just wait and see what the cult starts suggesting after the next 14 memorials - 2033 could be a significant memorial!!!!
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Personal Data Permission (Spain)
by paradiseseeker ini had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.
that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.
no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.
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The Fall Guy
Just had this point sent to me. It's in the ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS APRIL 2018, and says this;
"Secretary: Inform the body of elders if any publisher refuses to complete the consent form."
Refuses? "Shepherds" - shouldn't that be, "Doesn't wish to complete the consent form?"
Can't you see how autocratic your self-proclaimed "theocratic" organization is? Wake up and smell the coffee!
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Personal Data Permission (Spain)
by paradiseseeker ini had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.
that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.
no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.
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The Fall Guy
Note very carefully the necessary language which the org had to use in their INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE OF PERSONAL DATA letter to elders:
REQUESTING CONSENT
When inviting an individual to complete the consent form, the elder should explain the purpose of the form
REFUSAL TO CONSENT
An adult publisher might initially refuse to sign the Notice and Consent for Use of Personal Data (S-290) form........ However, the publisher should not feel pressured to sign the form.
"Requesting," "inviting," "consent," & "not feel pressured."
If elders start brow-beating individual/s regarding this, they're asking for trouble. Human Rights are at the core of this.
As I suggested the other day, just say, "I'll take the form and give it some thought."
If approached again, say, "I gave it some thought and decided that it's not something I'd want to do at the moment. If I change my mind, I can get back to you."
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It’s Stupid That JWs Wont Recognize Birthdays Yet If A Baby Is Born They Will Give Gifts!
by minimus ina witness can’t celebrate and give gifts on a birthday except on the day they are born.
giving a baby shower is ok as well as gift giving—- but only once!
soooo dumb!.
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The Fall Guy
Official WTBTS Dogma:
"The Bible never refers to a servant of God celebrating a birthday. This is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving God. However, both of those events are presented in a bad light." (JW.BORG web site)
What the Bible Really Teaches:
Job's sons celebrated the anniversary of their births.
Job 1:4 - "Each of his sons would hold a banquet at his house on his own set day. They would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them."
Job 3:1 - "It was after this that Job began to speak and to curse the day of his birth."
Genesis 40:20 - "Now the third day was Pharʹaoh’s birthday,
Jer. 20:14 - "Cursed be the day I was born!"
In all four verses, the same Hebrew word (yowm) is used to indicate the day of birth.
If we imitate the WTBTS's reasoning, female J.W.'s should heed the following:
"The Bible never refers to a servant of God wearing eye make-up. This is not simply an oversight, for it does record two occasions when eye make-up was worn by those not serving God. However, both of those events are presented in a bad light."
(2 Kings 9:30) When Jehu came to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it. So she painted her eyes with black paint....
(Ezekiel 23:40) ....you washed yourself and painted your eyes......
Based on the "faithful slave's" spirit-directed wisdom, eye make-up for women is clearly pagan and should be abhorred just like birthdays.
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2018 Public Talk Outlines!
by Atlantis in2018-03-27-public talk outlineshttps://we.tl/topagudkg5atlantis!.
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The Fall Guy
Thanks Atlantis - keep up your excellent work! It's very much appreciated.
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JW's Blow Their Own Trumpet Each Month
by The Fall Guy inw06 12/1 p. 27 par.
11 what it means to love our neighbor - “jesus commissioned his followers to preach and to teach and to “make disciples of people of all the nations.” by our participation in this work, we show love for......... neighbor.”.
by recording the number of hours of “love” shown to neighbours each month in their monthly report slip, aren't jw's in reality doing what christ said not to do?.
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w06 12/1 p. 27 par. 11 What It Means to Love Our Neighbor - “Jesus commissioned his followers to preach and to teach and to “make disciples of people of all the nations.” By our participation in this work, we show love for......... neighbor.”
By recording the number of hours of “love” shown to neighbours each month in their Monthly Report slip, aren't JW's in reality doing what Christ said not to do?
(Matthew 6:1,3,4) “Take care not to practice your righteousness in front of men to be noticed by them; 3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your gifts of mercy may be in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.